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		<title>By: New at IdeaLab: The People Formerly Known as the Audience need a new name &#8211; Invisible Inkling</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2009/07/08/are-your-readers-a-community/comment-page-1/#comment-16226</link>
		<dc:creator>New at IdeaLab: The People Formerly Known as the Audience need a new name &#8211; Invisible Inkling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at IdeaLab, I&#8217;m continuing a conversation I started on Twitter a couple weeks ago that spilled over here as [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan Sholin</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2009/07/08/are-your-readers-a-community/comment-page-1/#comment-16223</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Sholin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I think I&#039;ve got something new to say about this, thanks to one of the &quot;parenting&quot; (ha!) blogs I subscribe to. Namely, Geekdad. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2009/07/self-referential-geekdadiness/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s the relevant link&lt;/a&gt;.

And here&#039;s my interpretation: 

Maybe this is the key difference between an &quot;audience&quot; (or &quot;readers&quot;) and a &quot;community&quot;: In an audience, the members share a topic of interest; in a community, the members &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; the topic of interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I think I&#8217;ve got something new to say about this, thanks to one of the &#8220;parenting&#8221; (ha!) blogs I subscribe to. Namely, Geekdad. <a href="http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2009/07/self-referential-geekdadiness/" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s the relevant link</a>.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s my interpretation: </p>
<p>Maybe this is the key difference between an &#8220;audience&#8221; (or &#8220;readers&#8221;) and a &#8220;community&#8221;: In an audience, the members share a topic of interest; in a community, the members <em>are</em> the topic of interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Linch</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2009/07/08/are-your-readers-a-community/comment-page-1/#comment-16217</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Linch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been pondering this. I think the point about readers not implying community is a good one -- I completely agree. 

But I don&#039;t think community means that people are necessarily talking with each other. For example, you can have a sense of community through a shared experience like reading a newspaper, but this a lower threshold for &quot;community.&quot;

One of the great advantage of the Web is the lower barrier to not only enhanced shared experiences, but interactive ones -- be they face to face on Seesmic or comments on a blog.

Also, there&#039;s no one way to form a community. A community could form on it&#039;s own or as a result of a community building efforts.

Getting back to the original question, it&#039;s hard to pin down an answer. So the question really is, &quot;How do you define community?&quot;

Is it just someone who visits a site once -- or even regularly -- or is engaged through commenting, submitting photos, etc.? Something in between?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been pondering this. I think the point about readers not implying community is a good one &#8212; I completely agree. </p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t think community means that people are necessarily talking with each other. For example, you can have a sense of community through a shared experience like reading a newspaper, but this a lower threshold for &#8220;community.&#8221;</p>
<p>One of the great advantage of the Web is the lower barrier to not only enhanced shared experiences, but interactive ones &#8212; be they face to face on Seesmic or comments on a blog.</p>
<p>Also, there&#8217;s no one way to form a community. A community could form on it&#8217;s own or as a result of a community building efforts.</p>
<p>Getting back to the original question, it&#8217;s hard to pin down an answer. So the question really is, &#8220;How do you define community?&#8221;</p>
<p>Is it just someone who visits a site once &#8212; or even regularly &#8212; or is engaged through commenting, submitting photos, etc.? Something in between?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Amico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Amico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Community implies people are talking to each other, without relying on a single node (me or my news org) to mediate, along with a shared sense of identity based on who&#039;s in, and possibly who&#039;s out. That&#039;s a harder thing to achieve than I suspect most people realize. It&#039;s certainly not something I&#039;ve managed to build on any of my sites, except possibly at fleeting moments on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.daliandalian.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DalianDalian&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Community implies people are talking to each other, without relying on a single node (me or my news org) to mediate, along with a shared sense of identity based on who&#8217;s in, and possibly who&#8217;s out. That&#8217;s a harder thing to achieve than I suspect most people realize. It&#8217;s certainly not something I&#8217;ve managed to build on any of my sites, except possibly at fleeting moments on <a href="http://www.daliandalian.com" rel="nofollow">DalianDalian</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Weaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Community implies a kind of unanimity that I don&#039;t think you can assume from readers of news. Daily Kos has a community. If we define that word broadly enough to encompass a group who shares only its interest in news (eg readers of a mainstream news site) it has become vague to the point of uselessness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Community implies a kind of unanimity that I don&#8217;t think you can assume from readers of news. Daily Kos has a community. If we define that word broadly enough to encompass a group who shares only its interest in news (eg readers of a mainstream news site) it has become vague to the point of uselessness.</p>
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