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	<title>Comments on: The best newspaper webcast I&#8217;ve seen yet: Ledger Live</title>
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	<description>Ryan Sholin on the future of newspapers, online news and journalism education.</description>
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		<title>By: Carlos V.</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2008/08/21/the-best-newspaper-webcast-ive-seen-yet-ledger-live/comment-page-1/#comment-11295</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been keeping track of Ledger Live and it definitely is improving. I really like their attempt to involve the community. We are currently producing a &lt;a href=&quot;http://thedailybyteshow.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;daily webcast&lt;/a&gt; of upcoming news headlines. Not surprisingly, it doesn&#039;t get very many hits. I believe it is due to a variety of things: very little promotion, our website is a muddled mess, and the show is scripted and stiff. I shoot and edit the show and I try to locate art, video anything to &quot;spice it up&quot; but it doesn&#039;t really work. I originally had envisioned more of an off-the-cuff, unscripted show. Something that engages the public like what Ledger Live is doing. Good luck to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been keeping track of Ledger Live and it definitely is improving. I really like their attempt to involve the community. We are currently producing a <a href="http://thedailybyteshow.com/" rel="nofollow">daily webcast</a> of upcoming news headlines. Not surprisingly, it doesn&#8217;t get very many hits. I believe it is due to a variety of things: very little promotion, our website is a muddled mess, and the show is scripted and stiff. I shoot and edit the show and I try to locate art, video anything to &#8220;spice it up&#8221; but it doesn&#8217;t really work. I originally had envisioned more of an off-the-cuff, unscripted show. Something that engages the public like what Ledger Live is doing. Good luck to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mister Snitch:

There&#039;s an embed button on every one of their videos, and they &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/user/tvjersey&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;upload them to YouTube&lt;/a&gt;.

What, exactly, is your complaint?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mister Snitch:</p>
<p>There&#8217;s an embed button on every one of their videos, and they <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/tvjersey" rel="nofollow">upload them to YouTube</a>.</p>
<p>What, exactly, is your complaint?</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Snitch</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2008/08/21/the-best-newspaper-webcast-ive-seen-yet-ledger-live/comment-page-1/#comment-11288</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Snitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh... so you click on the video, and get sucked into NJ.com&#039;s site in order to view it. Have you guys SEEN how YouTube and Vimeo work, or are you willfully just that arrogant, self-involved, and stupid? I mean, really, you figure YOUR video is so unique and precious that it should work in a manner contrary to users&#039; expectations - which are based on their experiences with, oh,  EVERY OTHER VIRAL VIDEO ON THE &#039;NET?

Here&#039;s a hint... it&#039;s NOT.

And Jeff &quot;tell the client what he wants to hear&quot; Jarvis had a hand in this? Figures.

Epic fail here. Just appalling. It&#039;s no wonder, really, that NJ.com is as God-awful as it is. No doubt the hyped &#039;re-design&#039; will be just as inept. You just don&#039;t get it, and the &#039;consultants&#039; you hire to &#039;get it&#039; for you are tired, talentless hacks. But hey, they&#039;ll tell you you&#039;re doing a swell job before they cash your check.

And shame on the backslapping Sholin for &#039;forgetting&#039; to mention the fundamental problem with your &#039;video experiment&#039;. With such keen observation skills and passion for the truth, it&#039;s no wonder journalism enjoys the prestige it does today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh&#8230; so you click on the video, and get sucked into NJ.com&#8217;s site in order to view it. Have you guys SEEN how YouTube and Vimeo work, or are you willfully just that arrogant, self-involved, and stupid? I mean, really, you figure YOUR video is so unique and precious that it should work in a manner contrary to users&#8217; expectations &#8211; which are based on their experiences with, oh,  EVERY OTHER VIRAL VIDEO ON THE &#8216;NET?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a hint&#8230; it&#8217;s NOT.</p>
<p>And Jeff &#8220;tell the client what he wants to hear&#8221; Jarvis had a hand in this? Figures.</p>
<p>Epic fail here. Just appalling. It&#8217;s no wonder, really, that NJ.com is as God-awful as it is. No doubt the hyped &#8216;re-design&#8217; will be just as inept. You just don&#8217;t get it, and the &#8216;consultants&#8217; you hire to &#8216;get it&#8217; for you are tired, talentless hacks. But hey, they&#8217;ll tell you you&#8217;re doing a swell job before they cash your check.</p>
<p>And shame on the backslapping Sholin for &#8216;forgetting&#8217; to mention the fundamental problem with your &#8216;video experiment&#8217;. With such keen observation skills and passion for the truth, it&#8217;s no wonder journalism enjoys the prestige it does today.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 03:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow did that mid-day update ever stink. I can still smell it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow did that mid-day update ever stink. I can still smell it.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hassell</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hassell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan,

Thanks for the kind words. We&#039;re trying as much as possible to let users at NJ.com drive the content of the show. Today, we had an interview with a conservative critic of the state&#039;s fiscal policies after a commenter on the show&#039;s blog suggested it. Pretty cool.

And I totally agree about the need to archive and optimize for search not just the show, but its component parts. You can find all the segments in our blog at http://www/nj.com/ledgerlive, and all of our videos in a searchable gallery at http://videos.nj.com/star-ledger.

Wes: Sorry for your troubles. I&#039;m not sure what the problem was; I work on a Mac and use Firefox to watch the show daily without a problem. And I just tried it out on Safari with no issues. Hmm, I&#039;ll keep poking at it.

Thanks,
John Hassell, The Star-Ledger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan,</p>
<p>Thanks for the kind words. We&#8217;re trying as much as possible to let users at NJ.com drive the content of the show. Today, we had an interview with a conservative critic of the state&#8217;s fiscal policies after a commenter on the show&#8217;s blog suggested it. Pretty cool.</p>
<p>And I totally agree about the need to archive and optimize for search not just the show, but its component parts. You can find all the segments in our blog at <a href="http://www/nj.com/ledgerlive" rel="nofollow">http://www/nj.com/ledgerlive</a>, and all of our videos in a searchable gallery at <a href="http://videos.nj.com/star-ledger" rel="nofollow">http://videos.nj.com/star-ledger</a>.</p>
<p>Wes: Sorry for your troubles. I&#8217;m not sure what the problem was; I work on a Mac and use Firefox to watch the show daily without a problem. And I just tried it out on Safari with no issues. Hmm, I&#8217;ll keep poking at it.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
John Hassell, The Star-Ledger</p>
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		<title>By: Wes Rand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes Rand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had some trouble watching the video -- it refused to load in Safari and Firefox on a Mac. Was able to finally get it to play when I pulled it up on a Windows computer. Anyone else have that problem?

Very interesting webcast. Gives me some inspiration to see what we might be able to produce.</description>
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<p>Very interesting webcast. Gives me some inspiration to see what we might be able to produce.</p>
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