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	<title>Comments on: Participation counts.</title>
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	<description>Ryan Sholin on the future of newspapers, online news and journalism education.</description>
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		<title>By: Teaching Online Journalism &#187; Have you Googled yourself lately?</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2007/12/17/participation-counts/comment-page-1/#comment-9646</link>
		<dc:creator>Teaching Online Journalism &#187; Have you Googled yourself lately?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 14:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at either Blogger or WordPress.com (I recommend WordPress, but I did start at Blogger). Ryan Sholin put it this way: &#8220;If you’re a journalist, starting conversations is your job.&#8221; If you call yourself a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at either Blogger or WordPress.com (I recommend WordPress, but I did start at Blogger). Ryan Sholin put it this way: &#8220;If you’re a journalist, starting conversations is your job.&#8221; If you call yourself a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: robojiannis</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2007/12/17/participation-counts/comment-page-1/#comment-9613</link>
		<dc:creator>robojiannis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also proven scientifically that participation counts. It increases the value and users of a network exponentially. I think David Reed explains it very well (&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed&#039;s_law&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Reeds Law&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also proven scientifically that participation counts. It increases the value and users of a network exponentially. I think David Reed explains it very well (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed's_law" rel="nofollow">Reeds Law</a></p>
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		<title>By: thejjunkie.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A bit of link-blogging in the morning</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2007/12/17/participation-counts/comment-page-1/#comment-9532</link>
		<dc:creator>thejjunkie.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A bit of link-blogging in the morning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] really going against the constitution. But what regional paper still has foreign bureaus? Sad.Ryan Sholin tells you to get off your a** and get into the participation trend already. I&#8217;m 75% in; I have to admit I haven&#8217;t bothered with de.li.cio.us yet. Ryan also [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] really going against the constitution. But what regional paper still has foreign bureaus? Sad.Ryan Sholin tells you to get off your a** and get into the participation trend already. I&#8217;m 75% in; I have to admit I haven&#8217;t bothered with de.li.cio.us yet. Ryan also [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zac Echola</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2007/12/17/participation-counts/comment-page-1/#comment-9519</link>
		<dc:creator>Zac Echola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put, Ryan.

There&#039;s great conversations out there and it&#039;s most rewarding when we see those conversations turn into actions at papers.

Simply put, if you&#039;re not engaging people, what are you doing, exactly? You need to be a participant to fully understand the value of the Web and to understand your audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put, Ryan.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s great conversations out there and it&#8217;s most rewarding when we see those conversations turn into actions at papers.</p>
<p>Simply put, if you&#8217;re not engaging people, what are you doing, exactly? You need to be a participant to fully understand the value of the Web and to understand your audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim D'Avis</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2007/12/17/participation-counts/comment-page-1/#comment-9513</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim D'Avis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, that was knackerdhack&#039;s comment, not Yoni&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, that was knackerdhack&#8217;s comment, not Yoni&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim D'Avis</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2007/12/17/participation-counts/comment-page-1/#comment-9512</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim D'Avis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed on Yoni&#039;s point about curiosity... the folks who are naturally curious have already started to find their niche online. 

Bringing in a trainer or holding formal sessions for this stuff defies the logic of the services Ryan just laid out - they&#039;re easy to use, they require little investment to get going (time or money) and they give immediate gratification.

With the possible exception of shooting/editing video, &quot;train me&quot; can be taken as &quot;not right now, thanks.&quot; I didn&#039;t know a lick of HTML, javascript, PHP or Flash when I started my job, and I never received formal training. 

If you can use a Microsoft application or Quark xPress, you can start a facebook account. If you can deal with a byzantine editorial front end system, you can use wordpress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed on Yoni&#8217;s point about curiosity&#8230; the folks who are naturally curious have already started to find their niche online. </p>
<p>Bringing in a trainer or holding formal sessions for this stuff defies the logic of the services Ryan just laid out &#8211; they&#8217;re easy to use, they require little investment to get going (time or money) and they give immediate gratification.</p>
<p>With the possible exception of shooting/editing video, &#8220;train me&#8221; can be taken as &#8220;not right now, thanks.&#8221; I didn&#8217;t know a lick of HTML, javascript, PHP or Flash when I started my job, and I never received formal training. </p>
<p>If you can use a Microsoft application or Quark xPress, you can start a facebook account. If you can deal with a byzantine editorial front end system, you can use wordpress.</p>
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		<title>By: Yoni Greenbaum</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2007/12/17/participation-counts/comment-page-1/#comment-9510</link>
		<dc:creator>Yoni Greenbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Important message, simply said. Nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Important message, simply said. Nice.</p>
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		<title>By: knackeredhack</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2007/12/17/participation-counts/comment-page-1/#comment-9509</link>
		<dc:creator>knackeredhack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan,

You&#039;re right.  We all now have at our fingertips mostly free tools that a global news organization would have struggled to muster just a few short years ago.  The implications for journalist and technician are profound.  

I always thought it rather charming that when I introduced web access into the newsroom, there was an expectation for training in how to use a browser.  I was not too popular for suggesting that a curious person would already have a PC at home and have figured that out for themselves.  I would not be surprised to find similar expectations in larger news organizations toward the current crop of tools.

Thanks to this site, and in the spirit of what you&#039;re saying here, I made a rudimentary video the other day for my blog to report on a concert of 16th century music. Very local!  It was a simple montage using Soundslides.  A &quot;professional&quot; might cringe, but it was fun, and an important dry run for something more significant I have up my sleeve for the New Year.

Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right.  We all now have at our fingertips mostly free tools that a global news organization would have struggled to muster just a few short years ago.  The implications for journalist and technician are profound.  </p>
<p>I always thought it rather charming that when I introduced web access into the newsroom, there was an expectation for training in how to use a browser.  I was not too popular for suggesting that a curious person would already have a PC at home and have figured that out for themselves.  I would not be surprised to find similar expectations in larger news organizations toward the current crop of tools.</p>
<p>Thanks to this site, and in the spirit of what you&#8217;re saying here, I made a rudimentary video the other day for my blog to report on a concert of 16th century music. Very local!  It was a simple montage using Soundslides.  A &#8220;professional&#8221; might cringe, but it was fun, and an important dry run for something more significant I have up my sleeve for the New Year.</p>
<p>Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2007/12/17/participation-counts/comment-page-1/#comment-9505</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time. Well. Spent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time. Well. Spent.</p>
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		<title>By: MC Whiteside</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2007/12/17/participation-counts/comment-page-1/#comment-9504</link>
		<dc:creator>MC Whiteside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure does take a lot of time, though, to keep with all of the things we should do :)

(FYI, there wasn&#039;t room for all of my name)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure does take a lot of time, though, to keep with all of the things we should do <img src='http://ryansholin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(FYI, there wasn&#8217;t room for all of my name)</p>
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