Comments on: How quickly can newspaper video grow up? http://ryansholin.com/2007/02/20/how-quickly-can-newspaper-video-grow-up/ The future of news. And more. No funny stuff. Fri, 06 Jan 2012 02:22:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Will Sullivan's Journerdism » Follow the stats, or follow the ideals; The World’s Best Designed newspapers; How to do audio like NPR http://ryansholin.com/2007/02/20/how-quickly-can-newspaper-video-grow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-7549 Will Sullivan's Journerdism » Follow the stats, or follow the ideals; The World’s Best Designed newspapers; How to do audio like NPR Fri, 03 Aug 2007 05:14:24 +0000 http://www.ryansholin.com/2007/02/20/how-quickly-can-newspaper-video-grow-up/#comment-7549 [...] How quickly can newspaper video grow up? “The readers/viewers/users clicking on our stories are actively trying to experience the media we’re offering them, not passive receivers waiting for the sports highlights and weather report while they eat TV dinners.” [...] [...] How quickly can newspaper video grow up? “The readers/viewers/users clicking on our stories are actively trying to experience the media we’re offering them, not passive receivers waiting for the sports highlights and weather report while they eat TV dinners.” [...]

]]> By: Daniel Sato http://ryansholin.com/2007/02/20/how-quickly-can-newspaper-video-grow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-5105 Daniel Sato Sat, 24 Feb 2007 02:34:53 +0000 http://www.ryansholin.com/2007/02/20/how-quickly-can-newspaper-video-grow-up/#comment-5105 I have watched full length documentaries on the Internet and was glues to the screen. I have also watched minute long video pieces and wanted to close the window halfway through. I think it always depends on the quality of the work as well as making it clear to the reader as to the type of presentation they are about to watch. If I am on YouTube, I expect something short and sweet. If I am looking up a documentary on Google Video, I know that I am in it for the long haul. I have watched full length documentaries on the Internet and was glues to the screen. I have also watched minute long video pieces and wanted to close the window halfway through.

I think it always depends on the quality of the work as well as making it clear to the reader as to the type of presentation they are about to watch. If I am on YouTube, I expect something short and sweet. If I am looking up a documentary on Google Video, I know that I am in it for the long haul.

]]> By: angela http://ryansholin.com/2007/02/20/how-quickly-can-newspaper-video-grow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-5087 angela Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:40:38 +0000 http://www.ryansholin.com/2007/02/20/how-quickly-can-newspaper-video-grow-up/#comment-5087 In the paper, there are some print stories that will be briefs. Others will be 40-inch monsters, and they deserve it. There are some photos that will be only one or two columns big. There are other stories that call for multiple photos, some half the size of the page. Why should web video storytelling be different? Different stories call for a different ways of telling. I think there's room for them to all exist together ... the Internet is a big place. In the paper, there are some print stories that will be briefs. Others will be 40-inch monsters, and they deserve it.

There are some photos that will be only one or two columns big. There are other stories that call for multiple photos, some half the size of the page.

Why should web video storytelling be different? Different stories call for a different ways of telling. I think there’s room for them to all exist together … the Internet is a big place.

]]> By: Michael Bazeley http://ryansholin.com/2007/02/20/how-quickly-can-newspaper-video-grow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-5071 Michael Bazeley Wed, 21 Feb 2007 03:01:07 +0000 http://www.ryansholin.com/2007/02/20/how-quickly-can-newspaper-video-grow-up/#comment-5071 I see lots of different kinds of newspaper video possibilities. There's short, quick-hit news video. There are regularly programmed video podcasts. And there is longer-form, exploratory web video. The first one is easy, and papers are doing it. The second one is easy, and more papers should be doing it. The third one is harder, but plays to our traditional journalistic story-telling strengths. Unfortunately, I don't think there is much of a web audience right now for longer-form storytelling video. But there will be a tipping point when we are regularly watching web video on our TVs (or whatever that media center device is called). And that will open up all sorts of interesting possibilities for papers, as well as all the independent content-makers out there. I see lots of different kinds of newspaper video possibilities. There’s short, quick-hit news video. There are regularly programmed video podcasts. And there is longer-form, exploratory web video.

The first one is easy, and papers are doing it. The second one is easy, and more papers should be doing it. The third one is harder, but plays to our traditional journalistic story-telling strengths.

Unfortunately, I don’t think there is much of a web audience right now for longer-form storytelling video. But there will be a tipping point when we are regularly watching web video on our TVs (or whatever that media center device is called). And that will open up all sorts of interesting possibilities for papers, as well as all the independent content-makers out there.

]]> By: Photojournalism From A Student’s Eye » Blog Archive » Creativity in multimedia http://ryansholin.com/2007/02/20/how-quickly-can-newspaper-video-grow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-5070 Photojournalism From A Student’s Eye » Blog Archive » Creativity in multimedia Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:37:49 +0000 http://www.ryansholin.com/2007/02/20/how-quickly-can-newspaper-video-grow-up/#comment-5070 [...] Yesterday I was talking with a good friend of mine about what shape multimedia presentations should take. Lo and behold, a day later, Ryan Sholin writes a post on just that topic. I knew it was him that I saw outside last night, listening in to our every word. Mercury News photographers Richard Koci Hernandez writes: We are at an exciting crossroads in photojournalism, so why are we just creating bad TV for the web? I have the utmost respect for our TV brethren, but I think the broadcast model is broken FOR THE WEB. So why are we following it? I believe this is our only chance to shake things up. This has nothing to do with talking heads or even video for that matter. Even our ass (audio slide shows) are boring, filled with voice of God narrators or the subjects themselves telling us about the story, instead of us showing the story. [...] [...] Yesterday I was talking with a good friend of mine about what shape multimedia presentations should take. Lo and behold, a day later, Ryan Sholin writes a post on just that topic. I knew it was him that I saw outside last night, listening in to our every word. Mercury News photographers Richard Koci Hernandez writes: We are at an exciting crossroads in photojournalism, so why are we just creating bad TV for the web? I have the utmost respect for our TV brethren, but I think the broadcast model is broken FOR THE WEB. So why are we following it? I believe this is our only chance to shake things up. This has nothing to do with talking heads or even video for that matter. Even our ass (audio slide shows) are boring, filled with voice of God narrators or the subjects themselves telling us about the story, instead of us showing the story. [...]

]]> By: Newspaper video: Who cares what it is. Why are we doing it? : Andy Dickinson.net http://ryansholin.com/2007/02/20/how-quickly-can-newspaper-video-grow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-5060 Newspaper video: Who cares what it is. Why are we doing it? : Andy Dickinson.net Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:27:01 +0000 http://www.ryansholin.com/2007/02/20/how-quickly-can-newspaper-video-grow-up/#comment-5060 [...] Ryan Sholin asks similar questions in his response to the NY magazine piece. Are we doing it right? Would we be able to tell if we were? Does it matter? [...] [...] Ryan Sholin asks similar questions in his response to the NY magazine piece. Are we doing it right? Would we be able to tell if we were? Does it matter? [...]

]]> By: Newspaper video: Who cares what it is. Why are we doing it? : Andy Dickinson.net http://ryansholin.com/2007/02/20/how-quickly-can-newspaper-video-grow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-5061 Newspaper video: Who cares what it is. Why are we doing it? : Andy Dickinson.net Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:27:01 +0000 http://www.ryansholin.com/2007/02/20/how-quickly-can-newspaper-video-grow-up/#comment-5061 [...] Ryan Sholin asks similar questions in his response to the NY magazine piece. Are we doing it right? Would we be able to tell if we were? Does it matter? [...] [...] Ryan Sholin asks similar questions in his response to the NY magazine piece. Are we doing it right? Would we be able to tell if we were? Does it matter? [...]

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