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	<title>Comments on: More advice from Rob Curley</title>
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	<description>Ryan Sholin on the future of newspapers, online news and journalism education.</description>
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		<title>By: Spartan Daily Blogs &#171; Gilpin SJSU Blog</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2007/01/14/more-advice-from-rob-curley/comment-page-1/#comment-4413</link>
		<dc:creator>Spartan Daily Blogs &#171; Gilpin SJSU Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Spartan Daily&#160;Blogs  I just today discovered the Spartan Daily Blog page after reading  this post from Invisible Inkling. It’s the type of page that I would normally see a company like Microsoft use to allow its employees to blog in one central place. Compare MSDN Blogs to Spartan Daily Blogs and you’ll see what I’m talking about. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Spartan Daily&nbsp;Blogs  I just today discovered the Spartan Daily Blog page after reading  this post from Invisible Inkling. It’s the type of page that I would normally see a company like Microsoft use to allow its employees to blog in one central place. Compare MSDN Blogs to Spartan Daily Blogs and you’ll see what I’m talking about. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Innovation in College Media &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The swirling vortex of journalism ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Innovation in College Media &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The swirling vortex of journalism ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There&#8217;s lots of interesting discussion going on about the state of journalism education, much of it crossing the Atlantic. Read these posts from Andy Dickinson, Martin Stabe, Kevin Anderson, and Andrew Grant-Adamson in the UK, practioners and academics all. Then read this from Dave Lee, a student in the UK. In the U.S., of course, there&#8217;s Mindy McAdams&#8217; post from last week that started this ball rolling. Then there&#8217;s Bob Stepno. And don&#8217;t miss Ryan Sholin&#8217;s young gun words of wisdom. Or Matt Waite. Or Danny Sanchez. I&#8217;d like to see some thoughts from U.S. journalism students who write blogs. I know they&#8217;re out there. Link in, folks. This is your future we&#8217;re talking about here.  Lots to read there. Lots to think about. But the very fact that there are so many people talking about these issues and sharing ideas with each other increases the possibility that we&#8217;ll all benefit. It&#8217;s that &#8220;wisdom of crowds&#8221; thing again. This whole conversation illustrates something Howard Owens mentioned in his interview with me. There&#8217;s a social nature to the World Wide Web that you have to be a part of to understand. And journalists need to increase their understanding.  Share and Enjoy:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There&#8217;s lots of interesting discussion going on about the state of journalism education, much of it crossing the Atlantic. Read these posts from Andy Dickinson, Martin Stabe, Kevin Anderson, and Andrew Grant-Adamson in the UK, practioners and academics all. Then read this from Dave Lee, a student in the UK. In the U.S., of course, there&#8217;s Mindy McAdams&#8217; post from last week that started this ball rolling. Then there&#8217;s Bob Stepno. And don&#8217;t miss Ryan Sholin&#8217;s young gun words of wisdom. Or Matt Waite. Or Danny Sanchez. I&#8217;d like to see some thoughts from U.S. journalism students who write blogs. I know they&#8217;re out there. Link in, folks. This is your future we&#8217;re talking about here.  Lots to read there. Lots to think about. But the very fact that there are so many people talking about these issues and sharing ideas with each other increases the possibility that we&#8217;ll all benefit. It&#8217;s that &#8220;wisdom of crowds&#8221; thing again. This whole conversation illustrates something Howard Owens mentioned in his interview with me. There&#8217;s a social nature to the World Wide Web that you have to be a part of to understand. And journalists need to increase their understanding.  Share and Enjoy:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Innovation in College Media &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Advice from Rob Curley (the early scoop version)</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2007/01/14/more-advice-from-rob-curley/comment-page-1/#comment-4312</link>
		<dc:creator>Innovation in College Media &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Advice from Rob Curley (the early scoop version)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BTW, Ryan Sholin has some additional thoughts. His perspective should be equally worthwhile for aspiring journalists, as he&#8217;s just recently gotten a job in the market.  Share and Enjoy:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] BTW, Ryan Sholin has some additional thoughts. His perspective should be equally worthwhile for aspiring journalists, as he&#8217;s just recently gotten a job in the market.  Share and Enjoy:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wordblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Journalism training must face up to rapid change</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2007/01/14/more-advice-from-rob-curley/comment-page-1/#comment-4309</link>
		<dc:creator>Wordblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Journalism training must face up to rapid change</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was alerted to the discussion by Ryan Sholin who is working on a thesis at San Jose State University about the adoption of weblogs at US newspapers. He wrote in his Invisible Inking blog: Hey Spartan Daily kids (and all J-School students everywhere). Those of you just writing stories for the print edition, not participating in the blogs, not asking your faculty advisers when they’re going to get you one of those great audio recorders, not asking where you can borrow a video camera from, not asking the online editor to show you how the content management system works… WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I was alerted to the discussion by Ryan Sholin who is working on a thesis at San Jose State University about the adoption of weblogs at US newspapers. He wrote in his Invisible Inking blog: Hey Spartan Daily kids (and all J-School students everywhere). Those of you just writing stories for the print edition, not participating in the blogs, not asking your faculty advisers when they’re going to get you one of those great audio recorders, not asking where you can borrow a video camera from, not asking the online editor to show you how the content management system works… WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Venegas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Venegas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 06:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you completely, but implementation is the hardest part of it all right now when most of the teachers are still teaching that New Media isn&#039;t as important as the old paradigm. It&#039;s like trying to get blind men to appreciate the lighting on a Caravaggio, and worse for students unaware of tech - like trying to talk on the phone in a hurricane. NOT HAPPENING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you completely, but implementation is the hardest part of it all right now when most of the teachers are still teaching that New Media isn&#8217;t as important as the old paradigm. It&#8217;s like trying to get blind men to appreciate the lighting on a Caravaggio, and worse for students unaware of tech &#8211; like trying to talk on the phone in a hurricane. NOT HAPPENING.</p>
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		<title>By: Invisible Inkling &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Questions for student media advisers</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2007/01/14/more-advice-from-rob-curley/comment-page-1/#comment-4294</link>
		<dc:creator>Invisible Inkling &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Questions for student media advisers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Work      &#171; More advice from Rob&#160;Curley [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Work      &laquo; More advice from Rob&nbsp;Curley [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Murley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Murley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/01/14/advice-from-rob-curley-the-early-scoop-version/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my post about Curley&#039;s response.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/2007/01/14/advice-from-rob-curley-the-early-scoop-version/" rel="nofollow">my post about Curley&#8217;s response.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Murley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Murley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dangit, Curley beat me to posting his response. Oh, well. Good words anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dangit, Curley beat me to posting his response. Oh, well. Good words anyway.</p>
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