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	<title>Comments on: Bored By The Bayosphere</title>
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		<title>By: Invisible Inkling &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why Citizen Shovelware doesn&#8217;t work</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2005/08/12/bored-by-the-bayosphere/comment-page-1/#comment-4314</link>
		<dc:creator>Invisible Inkling &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why Citizen Shovelware doesn&#8217;t work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This might have been part of my problem with Bayosphere, Dan Gillmor&#8217;s SF Bay Area community site that eventually became a part of Backfence. I stated a variety of cases here, and Dan engaged me in conversation in comment threads here and where I posted it on Bayosphere, and we&#8217;ve talked about other things since, but I think when it came down to it, I wanted a little space for my own neighborhood, where I could find out where to play pickup soccer on Sundays, how to sign up for the softball league in the spring, and where parents in my town sent their kids to&#160;preschool. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This might have been part of my problem with Bayosphere, Dan Gillmor&#8217;s SF Bay Area community site that eventually became a part of Backfence. I stated a variety of cases here, and Dan engaged me in conversation in comment threads here and where I posted it on Bayosphere, and we&#8217;ve talked about other things since, but I think when it came down to it, I wanted a little space for my own neighborhood, where I could find out where to play pickup soccer on Sundays, how to sign up for the softball league in the spring, and where parents in my town sent their kids to&nbsp;preschool. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: orcmid</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2005/08/12/bored-by-the-bayosphere/comment-page-1/#comment-2171</link>
		<dc:creator>orcmid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 18:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, thanks for visiting the Lair.  I&#039;ve been thinking about a follow-up on AttentionTrust, and I&#039;ll look into what you&#039;ve suggested before I do that (and after avoided failing my own thesis project on trustworthiness).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks for visiting the Lair.  I&#8217;ve been thinking about a follow-up on AttentionTrust, and I&#8217;ll look into what you&#8217;ve suggested before I do that (and after avoided failing my own thesis project on trustworthiness).</p>
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		<title>By: orcmid</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2005/08/12/bored-by-the-bayosphere/comment-page-1/#comment-2170</link>
		<dc:creator>orcmid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  It is very refreshing over here.  Romance, fresh air, driving through forests (you&#039;re talking about the ride over the hill?  scary that).

Still, I like it. Much more homey. Real folks sitting around telling each other things that we didn&#039;t know about one another before.  

Thanks for stirring up the Bayosphere.  Woke me up. [;&lt;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  It is very refreshing over here.  Romance, fresh air, driving through forests (you&#8217;re talking about the ride over the hill?  scary that).</p>
<p>Still, I like it. Much more homey. Real folks sitting around telling each other things that we didn&#8217;t know about one another before.  </p>
<p>Thanks for stirring up the Bayosphere.  Woke me up. [;&lt;).</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2005/08/12/bored-by-the-bayosphere/comment-page-1/#comment-2168</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for commenting, Dan.  I just think it gets real presumptuous real quick when you start investing authority and credibility in citizen journalists based on the fact that they, er, play on your playground.  

I realize it&#039;s a hard thing to balance, but my comment when you launched the beta Bayosphere was &quot;Hoping this becomes more horizontal bonds than echo chamber.&quot;  I&#039;m having a hard time figuring out where the discourse comes in; like Daily Kos, the insides of Bayosphere look like the choir preaching to the choir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for commenting, Dan.  I just think it gets real presumptuous real quick when you start investing authority and credibility in citizen journalists based on the fact that they, er, play on your playground.  </p>
<p>I realize it&#8217;s a hard thing to balance, but my comment when you launched the beta Bayosphere was &#8220;Hoping this becomes more horizontal bonds than echo chamber.&#8221;  I&#8217;m having a hard time figuring out where the discourse comes in; like Daily Kos, the insides of Bayosphere look like the choir preaching to the choir.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2005/08/12/bored-by-the-bayosphere/comment-page-1/#comment-2167</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, none of this is about impressing me. It&#039;s about trying to create a place where we have a civil and informed conversation mostly about, yes, this specific place and the issues that matter to people here.

Sorry to lose your interest, but I&#039;ll keep watching what you write on your own blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, none of this is about impressing me. It&#8217;s about trying to create a place where we have a civil and informed conversation mostly about, yes, this specific place and the issues that matter to people here.</p>
<p>Sorry to lose your interest, but I&#8217;ll keep watching what you write on your own blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Bayosphere</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2005/08/12/bored-by-the-bayosphere/comment-page-1/#comment-2166</link>
		<dc:creator>Bayosphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;My Reply To Bayosphere&#039;s Question:  Why Haven&#039;t I Posted Anything Here?&lt;/strong&gt;

The following is cross-posted here from a post on my off-site blog.
I signed up for Dan Gillmor&#039;s Bayosphere real quick (app</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>My Reply To Bayosphere&#8217;s Question:  Why Haven&#8217;t I Posted Anything Here?</strong></p>
<p>The following is cross-posted here from a post on my off-site blog.<br />
I signed up for Dan Gillmor&#8217;s Bayosphere real quick (app</p>
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