<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd"
	xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: The Washington Post Doesn&#8217;t Know A Blog From A Message Board</title>
	<atom:link href="http://ryansholin.com/2005/07/20/the-washington-post-doesnt-know-a-blog-from-a-message-board/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://ryansholin.com/2005/07/20/the-washington-post-doesnt-know-a-blog-from-a-message-board/</link>
	<description>The future of news. And more. No funny stuff.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 02:22:01 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ryan Sholin&#8217;s J-School Blog</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2005/07/20/the-washington-post-doesnt-know-a-blog-from-a-message-board/comment-page-1/#comment-2038</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Sholin&#8217;s J-School Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2005 20:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.ryansholin.com/?p=168#comment-2038</guid>
		<description>[...] [BACKGROUND: Yesterday, Robert MacMillan&#8217;s Random Access column in the Washington Post covered the sordid tale of Michael Gee, an ex-Boston Herald writer who taught exactly one day of a class at Boston University, following it up by posting his drooling analysis of the &#8220;hot bod&#8221; of one his female students. Gee&#8217;s post was on this message board, but MacMillan reported Gee had posted it to &#8220;a blog.&#8221; In this post, I took issue with MacMillan&#8217;s choice of words, although I agree that Gee is a jerk in any format.] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] [BACKGROUND: Yesterday, Robert MacMillan&#8217;s Random Access column in the Washington Post covered the sordid tale of Michael Gee, an ex-Boston Herald writer who taught exactly one day of a class at Boston University, following it up by posting his drooling analysis of the &#8220;hot bod&#8221; of one his female students. Gee&#8217;s post was on this message board, but MacMillan reported Gee had posted it to &#8220;a blog.&#8221; In this post, I took issue with MacMillan&#8217;s choice of words, although I agree that Gee is a jerk in any format.] [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2005/07/20/the-washington-post-doesnt-know-a-blog-from-a-message-board/comment-page-1/#comment-2035</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.ryansholin.com/?p=168#comment-2035</guid>
		<description>Craig -  Agreed:  Leering at your students online is gross.  Really gross.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig &#8211;  Agreed:  Leering at your students online is gross.  Really gross.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2005/07/20/the-washington-post-doesnt-know-a-blog-from-a-message-board/comment-page-1/#comment-2034</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.ryansholin.com/?p=168#comment-2034</guid>
		<description>Prof. Dunleavy - I whole-heartedly agree that Gee&#039;s drivel and drool doesn&#039;t help the cause of online discourse, but I don&#039;t think I&#039;m splitting hairs when I call out MacMillan for getting the format wrong.  

To write &quot;Gee posted these remarks to a message board at yaddayadda.com&quot; does not carry the same weight as writing that Gee was fired &quot;after sharing inappropriate thoughts about a student on a blog.&quot;

(I do appreciate that it&#039;s &quot;a blog&quot; and not &quot;his blog&quot; - there&#039;s one subtle step of understanding there.)

There&#039;s a stigma brewing here, and it&#039;s that blogging will get you in trouble, especially if you&#039;re an educator.  Recall the &lt;a href=&quot;http://chronicle.com/jobs/2005/07/2005070801c.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chronicle of Higher Ed article from earlier this month.&lt;/a&gt;

I don&#039;t think it&#039;s defensible to start using one format as shorthand for &quot;everything written on the web.&quot;  Gee is not a blogger.  He&#039;s a guy who posted something stupid to a message board.  I think there&#039;s a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prof. Dunleavy &#8211; I whole-heartedly agree that Gee&#8217;s drivel and drool doesn&#8217;t help the cause of online discourse, but I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m splitting hairs when I call out MacMillan for getting the format wrong.  </p>
<p>To write &#8220;Gee posted these remarks to a message board at yaddayadda.com&#8221; does not carry the same weight as writing that Gee was fired &#8220;after sharing inappropriate thoughts about a student on a blog.&#8221;</p>
<p>(I do appreciate that it&#8217;s &#8220;a blog&#8221; and not &#8220;his blog&#8221; &#8211; there&#8217;s one subtle step of understanding there.)</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a stigma brewing here, and it&#8217;s that blogging will get you in trouble, especially if you&#8217;re an educator.  Recall the <a href="http://chronicle.com/jobs/2005/07/2005070801c.htm" rel="nofollow">Chronicle of Higher Ed article from earlier this month.</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s defensible to start using one format as shorthand for &#8220;everything written on the web.&#8221;  Gee is not a blogger.  He&#8217;s a guy who posted something stupid to a message board.  I think there&#8217;s a difference.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: dennis dunleavy</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2005/07/20/the-washington-post-doesnt-know-a-blog-from-a-message-board/comment-page-1/#comment-2033</link>
		<dc:creator>dennis dunleavy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2005 02:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.ryansholin.com/?p=168#comment-2033</guid>
		<description>Thanks for pointing out the discrepancy in MacMillan&#039;s reporting, but let&#039;s not get caught up in semantics. 

The communication was still made public, board or blog - no matter. 

Wasn’t the message board a predecessor of the weblog? 

 The point I was making in my posting was that this guy’s behavior was inappropriate when it became public. His immature musings cast a nasty cloud on what I found to be a rather healthy place for discourse and learning.

I am not overly concerned or interested in arguing over the format of the communication, but rather I am sincerely invested in what the implications and consequences of this action might mean to educators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing out the discrepancy in MacMillan&#8217;s reporting, but let&#8217;s not get caught up in semantics. </p>
<p>The communication was still made public, board or blog &#8211; no matter. </p>
<p>Wasn’t the message board a predecessor of the weblog? </p>
<p> The point I was making in my posting was that this guy’s behavior was inappropriate when it became public. His immature musings cast a nasty cloud on what I found to be a rather healthy place for discourse and learning.</p>
<p>I am not overly concerned or interested in arguing over the format of the communication, but rather I am sincerely invested in what the implications and consequences of this action might mean to educators.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: nonBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More tech media FUD</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2005/07/20/the-washington-post-doesnt-know-a-blog-from-a-message-board/comment-page-1/#comment-2032</link>
		<dc:creator>nonBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More tech media FUD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.ryansholin.com/?p=168#comment-2032</guid>
		<description>[...] Following up on my previous post FUD in tech media, Ryan Shaolin&#8217;s J-School Blog has another story illustrating irresponsible journalism spreading unintentional FUD through ignorance. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Following up on my previous post FUD in tech media, Ryan Shaolin&#8217;s J-School Blog has another story illustrating irresponsible journalism spreading unintentional FUD through ignorance. [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Craig Ranapia</title>
		<link>http://ryansholin.com/2005/07/20/the-washington-post-doesnt-know-a-blog-from-a-message-board/comment-page-1/#comment-2031</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Ranapia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2005 00:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.ryansholin.com/?p=168#comment-2031</guid>
		<description>Ryan: 

Being one of the bloggers concerned, I have to say fair fisk and will acknowledge the error.  Still, it was stupid, crass and unprofessional - if you&#039;re going to drool over your students, go for the low-tech solution of a diary and a desk drawer with a lock.  Jerk off, if you must.  But just try keeping it to yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan: </p>
<p>Being one of the bloggers concerned, I have to say fair fisk and will acknowledge the error.  Still, it was stupid, crass and unprofessional &#8211; if you&#8217;re going to drool over your students, go for the low-tech solution of a diary and a desk drawer with a lock.  Jerk off, if you must.  But just try keeping it to yourself.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

