Comments on: Jorge Cortell Redux http://ryansholin.com/2005/06/15/jorge-cortell-redux/ Ryan Sholin on the future of news. And other stuff. Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:52:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Weblog de Madelman http://ryansholin.com/2005/06/15/jorge-cortell-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-54 Weblog de Madelman Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:24:22 +0000 http://www.ryansholin.com/?p=116#comment-54 <strong>Acoso y derribo? Conspiración? Ni lo se ni me importa</strong> Hace 15 días alguien publicó un comentario en una entrada anterior, Jorge Cortell, crónica de una persecución, que contenía un simple link a www.acam.es/noticias_detalle.php?id=858, una página de la ACAM donde se explica que Jorge Cortell no tie... Acoso y derribo? Conspiración? Ni lo se ni me importa

Hace 15 días alguien publicó un comentario en una entrada anterior, Jorge Cortell, crónica de una persecución, que contenía un simple link a http://www.acam.es/noticias_detalle.php?id=858, una página de la ACAM donde se explica que Jorge Cortell no tie…

]]> By: gnd http://ryansholin.com/2005/06/15/jorge-cortell-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-53 gnd Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:30:49 +0000 http://www.ryansholin.com/?p=116#comment-53 No, the dinamic, ip thing its that some areas of spain, mainly telefonica-net come out, even if they look dinamic, from the same host, do some research on that. No, the dinamic, ip thing its that some areas of spain, mainly telefonica-net come out, even if they look dinamic, from the same host, do some research on that.

]]> By: José Manuel Molina http://ryansholin.com/2005/06/15/jorge-cortell-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-52 José Manuel Molina Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:44:12 +0000 http://www.ryansholin.com/?p=116#comment-52 Ya hubo un conocido caso de la misma índole (seguro que más, unos no los se, otros no se han conocido y otros no me acuerdo), creo que muchos lo conocerán: Bertrand Russell El motivo, decir lo que pensaba, con los años se ha visto quienes estaban equivados. Como siempre los necios jodiendo la marrana. Some time ago there was a similar issue with a university professor (there's been more cases in history, some I'dont know about, some weren't know at all, and some I do not remeber), I'm sure that many people has heard of Bertrand Russell. Injured and fired from NY University for saying what he thought, time has put everyone in its place. Today, as always, stupid fools pissing off the brilliant minds. Ya hubo un conocido caso de la misma índole (seguro que más, unos no los se, otros no se han conocido y otros no me acuerdo), creo que muchos lo conocerán:
Bertrand Russell
El motivo, decir lo que pensaba, con los años se ha visto quienes estaban equivados.
Como siempre los necios jodiendo la marrana.

Some time ago there was a similar issue with a university professor (there’s been more cases in history, some I’dont know about, some weren’t know at all, and some I do not remeber), I’m sure that many people has heard of Bertrand Russell.

Injured and fired from NY University for saying what he thought, time has put everyone in its place.

Today, as always, stupid fools pissing off the brilliant minds.

]]> By: Ryan http://ryansholin.com/2005/06/15/jorge-cortell-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Ryan Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:32:18 +0000 http://www.ryansholin.com/?p=116#comment-51 gnd - I'm trying not to make any judgments about Cortell's CV - I'm not buying everything he says about it - my crap detector works just as well in Spanish as it does in English. Regarding the comments coming from the same IP address with identical text - I usually find that ISPs with dynamic IPs don't use the same one twice for anything in particular, and it seems the odds of this ISP using the same one twice in 24 hours to comment on the same blog...well frankly, I don't buy it. I am fully aware of the nature of Barrapunto, having read the English-language Slashdot for a while now. I cite it here as a source precisely because it offers all sorts of opinions. I will take your advice and look into what some of the local papers in Valencia y Madrid have to say about Cortell. Thanks - Ryan gnd –

I’m trying not to make any judgments about Cortell’s CV – I’m not buying everything he says about it – my crap detector works just as well in Spanish as it does in English.

Regarding the comments coming from the same IP address with identical text – I usually find that ISPs with dynamic IPs don’t use the same one twice for anything in particular, and it seems the odds of this ISP using the same one twice in 24 hours to comment on the same blog…well frankly, I don’t buy it.

I am fully aware of the nature of Barrapunto, having read the English-language Slashdot for a while now. I cite it here as a source precisely because it offers all sorts of opinions.

I will take your advice and look into what some of the local papers in Valencia y Madrid have to say about Cortell.

Thanks – Ryan

]]> By: gnd http://ryansholin.com/2005/06/15/jorge-cortell-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-50 gnd Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:40:26 +0000 http://www.ryansholin.com/?p=116#comment-50 ok, lets have a look at some facts, the reality, about the posts from the same ip, probably they come from telefonica, that uses hidden-cache, some areas come out from the same ip. I dont think you can "fully understand" the replies that Cortell did about his CV. And you are falling for the "he is laying" kind of argument. I just hope that the rest of your ideas arent like this. I´ve been online for quite a while, and the manipulation of the media in spain is a disease in our everyday life, but in us is even worst. You just need to watch some local news. So dont take everything "as is comes" barrapunto is known to be a place where bullshit get together and they love flaming. gnd / Journalist :D ok, lets have a look at some facts, the reality, about the posts from the same ip, probably they come from telefonica, that uses hidden-cache, some areas come out from the same ip. I dont think you can “fully understand” the replies that Cortell did about his CV. And you are falling for the “he is laying” kind of argument. I just hope that the rest of your ideas arent like this. I´ve been online for quite a while, and the manipulation of the media in spain is a disease in our everyday life, but in us is even worst. You just need to watch some local news. So dont take everything “as is comes” barrapunto is known to be a place where bullshit get together and they love flaming.

gnd / Journalist :D

]]> By: Ciudadano http://ryansholin.com/2005/06/15/jorge-cortell-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-46 Ciudadano Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:21:49 +0000 http://www.ryansholin.com/?p=116#comment-46 me parece una vergüenza que la sgae, la riia y los gibiernos y entidades corruptas hagan esto a este hombre. <em>[Ed.: This roughly translates as "It seems to me a shame that the <a href="http://www.sgae.es/sgae.inm?selectedMenu=-1">SGAE</a>, <a href="http://www.riaa.com/default.asp">RIAA</a>, and other government agencies and corrput entities have done this to this man." Of course, the link from the commenter's name went straight to porn, the IP is anonymized, and a few things are misspelled, making it look like comment spam. Pero que se yo? - Ryan]</em> me parece una vergüenza que la sgae, la riia y los gibiernos y entidades corruptas hagan esto a este hombre.

[Ed.: This roughly translates as "It seems to me a shame that the SGAE, RIAA, and other government agencies and corrput entities have done this to this man." Of course, the link from the commenter's name went straight to porn, the IP is anonymized, and a few things are misspelled, making it look like comment spam. Pero que se yo? - Ryan]

]]> By: http://jorge.cortell.net » ¿Acoso y derribo? Noooooo, es “casualidad” http://ryansholin.com/2005/06/15/jorge-cortell-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-45 http://jorge.cortell.net » ¿Acoso y derribo? Noooooo, es “casualidad” Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:24:07 +0000 http://www.ryansholin.com/?p=116#comment-45 [...] es que esto lo hagan a nivel internacional, en una campaña organizada, como denuncia este blogger: ——————— Here’s the text of the comments: you decide… Th [...] [...] es que esto lo hagan a nivel internacional, en una campaña organizada, como denuncia este blogger: ——————— Here’s the text of the comments: you decide… Th [...]

]]> By: sammy http://ryansholin.com/2005/06/15/jorge-cortell-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-39 sammy Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:10:41 +0000 http://www.ryansholin.com/?p=116#comment-39 The university shares a lot of blame as well. Offically, Jorge Cortell "taught" under this "professional" program at UPV. http://www.mag.upv.es/infoepp.html It is a program designed for people already working to study on weekends or in the summer --- the university gives you a "certificate of attendence" that does not have much academic meaning. http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=es_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.mag.upv.es%2ftitepp.html The sad part is that the university probably knows about his CV problems, but he is "famous" in Spain (if you kept on saying P2P is legal --- you will get famous) --- and his fame attracts these weekend course attendees (which brings in good money). So it's a not "real" course that is taught by not a "real" professor --- all ok'ed by the university because it brings in money. <em> [Ed.: Note that this comment is the third from the same IP address under a different name - take this concentrated effort with a grain of salt. - Ryan]</em> The university shares a lot of blame as well. Offically, Jorge Cortell “taught” under this “professional” program at UPV.

http://www.mag.upv.es/infoepp.html

It is a program designed for people already working to study on weekends or in the summer — the university gives you a “certificate of attendence” that does not have much academic meaning.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=es_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.mag.upv.es%2ftitepp.html

The sad part is that the university probably knows about his CV problems, but he is “famous” in Spain (if you kept on saying P2P is legal — you will get famous) — and his fame attracts these weekend course attendees (which brings in good money).

So it’s a not “real” course that is taught by not a “real” professor — all ok’ed by the university because it brings in money.

[Ed.: Note that this comment is the third from the same IP address under a different name - take this concentrated effort with a grain of salt. - Ryan]

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